Josh Klinghoffer wishes he had told Rick Rubin to leave RHCP Studio

Earlier Red Hot Chili Peppers guitarist Josh Klinghoffer looked back on his first album with the band and said he wished he had told the producer Rick Rubin to exit the recording sessions.

Klinghoffer was hired in 2009 after John Frusciante‘s depressionthereafter fired 10 years later when Frusciante returned to the group. While the parties involved have since explained that it was a step that simply had to be taken, Klinghoffer was left with disappointment after appearing on two Chili Peppers albums—2011’s I am with you and the 2016s The Getaway – but never to have felt that he had achieved what he wanted with the band.

“I’m incredibly conflicted about my output with that band because I feel like in both cases the producers got in the way of us really making great music or a great record,” the guitarist explained during an interview with Vinyl author music. “I like almost all the songs we wrote together, but rarely did we capture them in the best way.”

Klinghoffer was particularly critical of Rubin who helped I am with you. “I feel like Rick Rubin was much more of a hindrance than a help,” the rocker noted. “He told me once, ‘I just want to help the songs be the best they can be.’ I should have said, ‘Well, then have your driver come and pick you up’.”

In 2020, the guitarist told Rolling stones that he had felt like “the odd man out” during those sessions, as Rubin and the band had a quarter-century connection. “Like no one else in the band is going to listen to me; they’re going to listen to their friend who they’ve known and worked with and collaborated with successfully for ages,” he said.

Klinghoffer added that Danger Mouse was chosen as The Getaway‘s producer because “I didn’t want to work with Rick again”, but that the resulting record had left him similarly unhappy. “I never felt like it was easy to fight for what I wanted on that record, so that record ended up being a bunch of songs that I enjoyed, but I wasn’t happy with the way it sounded.”

In the new interview, Klinghoffer also rejected the suggestion that he was hired as a traveling member of Pearl Jam after working on front man Eddie Vedders 2022 solo album Land dweller. “My conversation with Eddie… was a year and a half before the earthlings [band] landed or existed,” he said. “The time I left the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Pearl Jam and decided they needed an extra voice and a set of hands on the tour for Gigaton record could not have been more perfect. Eddie and I talked about it on his birthday in 2019, eight days after I was fired from the Red Hot Chili Peppers.”

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