Moving in White’s Chris Moving says that pain is where art flourishes

Movable in white mastermind Chris motionless was the latest guest on Full Metal Jackie’s weekend radio show. He discussed the band’s latest album, To score the end of the world, and how therapeutic the writing sessions were for him. The themes are a bit apocalyptic, and the musician expressed that expressions of pain help the art to flourish.

Moving views that spell positive impact on mental states for both him and fans who find catharsis in hearing your own emotions reflected by others in such powerful music. It’s a connection that’s vital for the band as they aim to relate to fans on different levels as they continue to climb the ladder of success and rise in popularity. “We will never give up or give up” strives for ways to maintain this connection, he affirms.

Read the full interview below.

To score the end of the world is out now, and it’s a pessimistic, even apocalyptic album. What makes hopelessness and despair creatively appealing?

I’ve always found that’s where the true depth of honesty and sincerity in my music has come from. I enjoy writing songs that are just fun and uplifting and just generally happy, but ones that seem to resonate with fans or [the ones that] seem to be my favorite songs, they’re always the ones where you pull from the depths of something tragic or some life experience that was really hard.

Then you have the music and the lyrics as an outlet to deal with those things. I think that’s how fans interpret it too. I feel like most art in the whole world is highly regarded and all these masterpieces are some kind of story of pain underneath them. It’s just kind of where art flourishes.

Moving in White, ‘Scoring the End of the World’


Brian Garris of Knocked Loose and Caleb Shomo of Beartooth both appear To score the end of the world. How do external collaborators magnify aspects of the music that are inherently you?

When you have a person on a song, it gives a different life to a track. You get a cool moment of the song where, even if you like the band you’re listening to, there’s just something about a feature that really makes your head spin or your ears perk up.

There’s a level of tension that gives the song a moment beyond what the band itself can do. I’ve always been a fan of features, especially if I’m a fan of the artist, I eagerly await that moment of the song. I’m just drooling, “Oh God, I can’t wait for the bridge or the second verse where they go in.”

It’s such an exciting component to a song that definitely makes it have something beyond what the band itself could do. With these two guys on these tracks, especially Caleb on “Red, White and Boom,” it’s so exciting when he comes in and you finally think, “Yeah, the rock star has arrived. Caleb’s here, let’s go.”

Moving In White, “Red, White & Boom” (ft. Caleb Shomo)

The band built its reputation on heavy music, but more tender songs are becoming predominant for you. What does expanding the band’s musical parameters strengthen?

I have to thank the fans for that. We started out as a very heavy band, and we had songs that weren’t that heavy, but it seems like the fans kind of gravitated to the tracks that were a little more melodic, where the lyrics captured the emotions they were feeling.

It’s a way for us to expand our sound. We never want to give up the band’s roots – the heavy stuff. There are songs that are really heavy on this record, and it’s heavier than our last two records. We always make sure we keep that component as part of the band, but it’s really cool for us to get to explore songs like “Werewolf,” where it’s an ’80s theatrical thriller, 20/20 a kind of song.

It gives us a way to create in a way where we never get bored and where we constantly push ourselves to try new things. I love that we are not stuck in quicksand.

Movable in White, “Werewolf”

Mental health awareness has become very relevant. What aspects of making the new album and being in this band are unexpectedly therapeutic for you?

I only have therapy sessions once a week, so when I’m working on an album, I have therapy sessions all day, every day, for better or for worse. Writing the text is [therapeutic] moment, and that’s why I listen to music, and that’s why I’ve been a fan of music all my life. I wanted to join because I was an angry teenager who wanted to play punk music or heavy music and vent that frustration.

While I may not be that angry anymore about this record, there were definitely a lot of things around the world to be pretty angry about.

I recognize how much music is really an outlet for myself on this record, and I recognize that fans find it a very therapeutic scenario to put an album on and have someone sing your feelings. I loved when I put records on that were like that. It is a very cathartic experience. It’s therapy every day — you get to sit with yourself and solve problems. Even if you just feel like you’re just going to be shrouded in despair that day, move on. It’s kind of healthy in its own way. That’s how I approach it.

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Release parties give people a chance to hear the new album and interact with the band. Why is face-to-face contact with your audience so important to you?

We are a band that is, all for one, one for all. While things have definitely become more distant just by the organic nature of the beast, so to speak, we can’t just walk out into a festival in the crowd and say, “What’s going on?” It just doesn’t work that way anymore. We’re trying to organize any kind of way that we can be face to face and have that moment with the fans saying, “Hey, we’re real people. We might be on a stage, but we’re there because of your support . So let’s find a way to hang out and share this together.”

It is something we will never give up or give up. We’re really going to try to find ways to get face time and let people in. A lot of bands don’t. We want fans to see the full dimension and the full dynamic of what the band is. It’s cool now with the internet because there are so many ways to do it. You have days like a release party where we just have to party with fans and have a great time. It’s so cool to be able to do that.

Thanks to Chris Motionless for the interview. Get your copy of Motionless in White’s new album ‘Scoring the End of the World’ here and follow the band on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook and Spotify. Find out where to hear Full Metal Jackie’s weekend radio show here.

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